Hi, welcome to the 27th volume of my talk page.
Question about your recent decision to protect the "Roads in the United Kingdom" article for one year
I'm someone who has long held an interest in British roads, and I'm a little unsure whether the recent semi protection you've applied to the article about roads in the UK is fully compliant with Wikipedia's page protection guidance. The article has just been semi-protected by you for a period of 1 year and appears to have had no prior protection at any point. In most cases semi-protection is used for short periods on an article unless vandalism occurs regularly, when articles tend to get protected for increasingly longer periods (typically going from around a week to a month to a year to longer/infinite) shortly after the previous protection period expires.
Outside of the few recent sockpuppet edits beginning on the 16th March, the article does not appear to be to frequently edited, and I suspect long term pending changes protection (which will block any suspected sockpuppet edits while allowing good faith anonymous edits), or alternatively a 1 week to one month semi-protection period (seeing as this vandalism looks relatively recent and the page has not been protected before), might be a better way to go with the page.
Gourleyo (talk) 22:32, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- We don't have to limit our protection considerations to just the disruptive behavior the filer identifies. On reviewing the article history I found this linkspam, added by an IP last July and twice reverted. There have been no productive IP/TA/NC edits since then. Daniel Case (talk) 01:23, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Relocking Clavicular
Hello, @Daniel Case. Would you mind locking Clavicular? After your last protection expired, the page has expired daily disruption from TAs—mostly unsourced material and vandalism. Giovanni Potage (talk) 20:08, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Your nomination of AB-Aktion has failed
Your good article nomination of the article AB-Aktion has
failed. See the review page for more information. If or when the reviewer's feedback has been addressed, you may nominate the article again. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Daniel Case -- Daniel Case (talk) 05:30, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- Is this because I renamed the article per an issue raised at the GA nom? There is nothing at the review page indicating a fail. Daniel Case (talk) 05:36, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, the bot detects that the nomination of "Name A" was unsuccessful. CMD (talk) 05:52, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- OK ... thanks. It seems as though it might be a good idea to see if the bot can learn to recognize when an article and its accompanying nom page has merely been moved? Daniel Case (talk) 06:03, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- It's a known bug and on the to do list, but it's not a simple problem afaiui. The bot does put the 'new' article on the GAN list though, at the same position, so no manual action needs to be taken in addition to the move which is nice. CMD (talk) 09:05, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- I made a change to the bot a couple of weeks to try to address this, but it apparently didn't work. This is a rare situation so I have to wait after each code fix to see if it happens again. I'll have another crack at it in the next week or two. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:50, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! Glad to know you're aware and working on this. Daniel Case (talk) 18:20, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- Alright ... I'm almost done working on the reviewer's suggestions, so I was a little panicked at first. Daniel Case (talk) 18:21, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- It's a known bug and on the to do list, but it's not a simple problem afaiui. The bot does put the 'new' article on the GAN list though, at the same position, so no manual action needs to be taken in addition to the move which is nice. CMD (talk) 09:05, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- OK ... thanks. It seems as though it might be a good idea to see if the bot can learn to recognize when an article and its accompanying nom page has merely been moved? Daniel Case (talk) 06:03, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, the bot detects that the nomination of "Name A" was unsuccessful. CMD (talk) 05:52, 25 March 2026 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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TA sock
Hi Daniel, this TA appears to be a sockpuppet of PJK / Urabura. They, for example, restored edits in the National Bank of Poland article that had previously been made by earlier sockpuppets (Ender-theBoy, Bowdlerised, and several TA socks, see recent page history). Could you please take a look when you have a moment? JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 21:01, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
- There's a bunch of related IPs. Do these edits as a broader pattern (i.e., the ones on Polish topics) suggest the same LTA? Daniel Case (talk) 21:13, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
- I believe they do. For example, the removal of the Ukrainian name from the Pierogi article,[1] as well as the deletion of theories about a possible German origin of the name Bigos,[2] fit the general pattern. They also restored another edit by a previous TA sock. JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 22:08, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
- And I will add that the geolocation on the Polish topic edits is consistent, too. I will see what I can do. Daniel Case (talk) 02:27, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
- OK. I have blocked two of the temp accounts indef; since they were using different IPs (though in the same geographic area) it seems like this is a phone or some other sort of mobile/portable device, so this block may end it for this method for a while. Daniel Case (talk) 02:37, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for looking into this. JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 07:09, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: It looks like they have now created a whole series of new TAs (~2026-19115-91, ~2026-19108-67, ~2026-19009-60), as well as a new registered account (Falconn1986), and have used these to restore their edits[3][4][5][6] and ping an editor who has been demonstrably contacted by PJK 1993 in the past. The edit summary rationale "good faith edit" is also typical of their previous socks (see e.g. [7] [8]). Could you please take another look? JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 21:31, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
- OK. I have indeffed the registered account and all those three temp accounts plus a fourth, and put the targeted pages (National Bank of Poland, Bigos, Władysław Grabski and Wrocław under protection for varying lengths of time.
- This guy is really ticking me off here. This was so what I wanted to be doing with time of mine that is very precious right now when I have to call it a night soon so I can get up early for a long workday, when I was fully expecting to have a little of it to get some things done that mattered to me. Daniel Case (talk) 04:19, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for handling this, especially at such an inconvenient time. I really appreciate it. There was no immediate urgency on my end, and I hope it didn't come across that way. I've mostly reached out to you in this case, as you're likely the admin most familiar with the details, and I've always found your judgments and actions very appropriate. Once again, big thanks! JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 20:19, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- I believe they do. For example, the removal of the Ukrainian name from the Pierogi article,[1] as well as the deletion of theories about a possible German origin of the name Bigos,[2] fit the general pattern. They also restored another edit by a previous TA sock. JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 22:08, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
Question
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Football_League_2 protection
or just ban https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ABibin7259&redlink=1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bobanfasil Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 00:34, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- Do you have diffs that lead you to suspect Bobanfasil? This is an area where I now tread lightly. Daniel Case (talk) 02:12, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- page protection is only option then, please Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 03:07, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
Done Six months. Daniel Case (talk) 03:09, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- warning to mentioned user would help also
- 🙌👍 Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 03:19, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- OK, I did that too, but ... you could also have done that; the warning doesn't need to come from an admin. Daniel Case (talk) 03:23, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HelloWorld8800
- reverts of I-League 2 article and ban of another bobanfasil sleeper account asap please Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 15:14, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-League_3#
- (renamed this too) Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 15:21, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DaDeadzombie
- possibly origin of these socks Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 15:25, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- User:C.Fred Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 16:02, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- OK, I did that too, but ... you could also have done that; the warning doesn't need to come from an admin. Daniel Case (talk) 03:23, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
- page protection is only option then, please Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 03:07, 28 March 2026 (UTC)
Page protection
Hello! Just a quick question. Here, you said that the page Joker (The Dark Knight) has been protected. Could you please explain how to tell that it's been protected? I thought that when protection is enacted, there is either (A) a lock icon at the top of the page, (B) a "PP" template when you start editing, or (C) a pop-up box when you start editing, but I see none of these. OrdinaryOtter (talk) 07:19, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
- I didn't protect it; Gogo Dodo did, according to the protection log, and they also added the small protection tag, which I would guess might have inadvertently (or perhaps not) been removed in an intervening edit. I am, however, still seeing the protection notice above the edit window.
- Frankly, it looks like that article may need to be elevated to extended-confirmed protection; GD would be the one to discuss it with. Daniel Case (talk) 17:48, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
Just as a heads up, you might want to revoke TPA here. Thanks. JeffSpaceman (talk) 22:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
Your ARC statement
Hello, I've been silently following the current request for arbitration. Asking here so as to not clog up the ARC page, why does the part where your say "I never thought that something like this would happen to an editor like me." link to a porn magazine? Forgive me if it's obvious but I don't see the connection. GrayStorm(Talk to me|My Contribs.) 04:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- I typed that, and thought of the classic beginning of so many letters to the Penthouse Forum detailing the writer's purported sexual experiences: "I never thought this would happen to a guy like me, but ..." Mayb that's not the best place for that joke; I'll take it out. Daniel Case (talk) 04:44, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Page protection
Hi Daniel Case. Thanks for adding page protection to the Green Party of England and Wales article. Would there be any chance you could please extend the protection until 8 May? There are local elections in the UK on 7 May and this page is going to get more attention and likely more vandalism in the time coming up to then. To drop the protection only a week away from elections at a heightened time of viewership, and likely vandalism, doesn't seem optimal. Helper201 (talk) 16:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
Done I added a week past the elections to be on the safe side. Daniel Case (talk) 18:10, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
- Great! Thank you very much, that's very much appreciated. Helper201 (talk) 18:26, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
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Title
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Handball_Federation_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1300165266 Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 06:02, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- What I am being asked to do? Daniel Case (talk) 06:04, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/WorldSportsEdit
- please warning to user and if possible deletion of outdated artice Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 06:04, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
Article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Unity_Cup#
(previous editions and main article too, quick typos/grammar check as they were edited by indian users recently, appreciate) Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 18:11, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- Robby.is.on Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 18:12, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Iancash81: Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 18:54, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- It looks OK ... are we suspecting any socks here? Daniel Case (talk) 01:50, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- 👍👏
- all ok then Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 05:30, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- It looks OK ... are we suspecting any socks here? Daniel Case (talk) 01:50, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Iancash81: Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 18:54, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
"a period of indef"
I noticed this odd wording in this block notice. If there's some easy fix in your workflow to have the template spell out "indefinite", ideally in a grammatically correct way, that'd be cool. If not, no big deal. Just wanted to let you know in case you weren't aware the template is doing this. Toadspike [Talk] 16:28, 6 April 2026 (UTC)
- I hadn't realized that evadeblock redirects to sockblock, which has the indef=yes parameter. I would have used that had I known. Daniel Case (talk) 03:45, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
Likely another sock
@Daniel Case: It appears that PJK 1993 has returned under a new account "Maxbeirut". A few hours ago, there was an edit war on the Poland article in which this account made edits that had already been made by the previously blocked sockpuppet Bowdlerised:
- replacing recent population figures based on estimates with 2022 census data
- replacing "Kaliningrad Oblast" with "Russia" in the lead section
- removing a sentence about Hussars from the lead section
- replacing "as the first of the communist countries" with "as the first of its neighbours"
Diffs:
Another indication is that on the article talk page they used the same wording as Bowdlerised, calling the same edit by this editor "cringe." (Maxbeirut: [11] Bowdlerised: [12]) Both the personal attacks and the edit-warring behavior (resulting in a 24-hour block) match PJK. There are further indications, though I believe this is already quite evident. I’d appreciate it if you could take a look. JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 22:12, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- I'll get to it ... can't do it right now. Daniel Case (talk) 22:13, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 22:19, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- Blocked indef. Good thing I waited the day ... at the time you posted this he had been blocked for edit warring. Daniel Case (talk) 02:22, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 16:46, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
- Blocked indef. Good thing I waited the day ... at the time you posted this he had been blocked for edit warring. Daniel Case (talk) 02:22, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 22:19, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
About Andrew5
Simply blocking his socks is insufficient to stop the disruption. He will taunt you for not protecting pages. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 00:22, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Noted. All the same, if we let an LTA dictate when we protect pages, we might as well not protect pages at all. Daniel Case (talk) 01:22, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
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"Crystalball"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/~2026-73242-0
are these edits allowed "transfers, ?" (serial ip user keeps them in handball articles, lack of care made it slip... if can take a look please Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 01:53, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
- I would ask at WT:HANDBALL ... I don't know enough about the sport and the project to say. Daniel Case (talk) 02:15, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
RevDel needed?
Hi there. I saw that you're listed on both the list of admins willing to do revision deletions as well as recently active admins. Does this count as something that needs to be deleted per RD2? I've been on the internet for a long time so I'm regrettably used to vulgarity, but it seems like something that Wikipedia probably frowns upon. Sigma440 (talk) 04:07, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
- I RevDel'ed their edits and blocked them indef as NOTHERE. Daniel Case (talk) 04:16, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for your help! Sigma440 (talk) 04:24, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
A kitten for you!

Thanks for protecting important articles!
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User repeatedly making same controversial edit request
You blocked CBum 6 last time but he hasn't learned enough. Per WP:ER, the edit requests to an ECR protected topic must be uncontroversial so that they can be carried out without requiring further discussion. This was not the case with CBum 6's edit request the first time[13] it was made, and therefore it was rejected[14], ever since then the user has repeatedly spammed this very request[15][16][17] on the talkpage and even cast insinuations against me in the process.[18] They did it today again despite my last warning to them.[19][20] Zalaraz (talk) 09:42, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- I have blocked them from editing the page for three months since it implicates not just one but two contentious topic areas (but I did not make it ArbCom-appealable yet as this is the first block like this) ... Since they do not seem to be causing any problems elsewhere at the moment, further sanctions do not seem necessary. Daniel Case (talk) 21:29, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is JeanClaudeN1 and Daniel Case. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 12:56, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
Russian language source check request
Hi, I saw you listed at Wikipedia:Translators available, and wondered if you might be willing to help confirm a couple of sources for an article? File:Banner of the Kokand Khans.svg says "The banner of the Kokand khans was white [...] symbolising the Chingissid tradition of khan authority" and gives two sources in Russian. I was hoping to add them to White flag § Islamic use, along with the information about symbolising the Chinggisids, but wanted to make sure they really did support the claims. I've tried to find alternative English language sources on JSTOR, Google, Google Books, and Internet Archive, but haven't found anything that covers this. Any help would be much appreciated, but I completely understand if you're busy with other stuff! --YodinT 17:09, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
Mark Pellegrino Page Vandalism
Hello Daniel Case, I recently edited Mark Pellegrino's Wiki page because user Bhargavee1996 reverted the page back to an edit previously made by another that someone had already deleted. I was just wondering if you were able to block them from changing the article. Splicem (talk) 18:25, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- The edits have been reverted and he has been warned, and not edited since the warning. Daniel Case (talk) 05:02, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
Did you forward for reversion the mass removal of maintenance tags?
You "rm per comment" this report, but someone has to cleanup the large number of bad edits. Ldm1954 (talk) 04:36, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Ask at WP:AN ... Daniel Case (talk) 05:00, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
Dacoit: A Love Story
Hi Somebody is adding wrong box office figures and ranges in Dacoit: A Love Story. Pls make it blank and extended block. Univofbegumpet (talk) 13:40, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- As noted here, you need to stop as you are in danger of being blocked for violating 3RR or otherwise edit warring. Take it to the article talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 17:44, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
Dear Daniel Case, User:Univofbegumpet is repeatedly removing reliable sources from this article. I have told at user's talk page several times that they are reliable sources and the user isn't even ready to accept it. Another user have added another unreliable/Blog source to the article now (as discussed here). I'm not restoring the revision with reliable sources since I'm not willing to violate 3RR. Hope you can restore this edit revision which have reliable sources for budget and gross of the film. Thanks. Bikram96 (talk) 03:24, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I wish I could, but since it's not obvious vandalism I might appear to be involved if I did. Since they've backed off editing, maybe wait until 24 hours have gone by. Or get someone else to do it. Daniel Case (talk) 03:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- You can restore it since you aren't going to violate 3RR. Also, the gross now is with an unreliable source. Bikram96 (talk) 03:29, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, but I'd potentially be perceived as having taken a side. Daniel Case (talk) 03:31, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think the user have backed off editing. They will probably revert when budget and gross with reliable sources are restored. Again, noting you that now the gross is supported with an unreliable source. Thanks. Bikram96 (talk) 03:39, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Have you considered asking on the India noticeboard for another editor to step in? Daniel Case (talk) 03:41, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think the user have backed off editing. They will probably revert when budget and gross with reliable sources are restored. Again, noting you that now the gross is supported with an unreliable source. Thanks. Bikram96 (talk) 03:39, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, but I'd potentially be perceived as having taken a side. Daniel Case (talk) 03:31, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- You can restore it since you aren't going to violate 3RR. Also, the gross now is with an unreliable source. Bikram96 (talk) 03:29, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Categorization of AE protection actions needed (13 April 2026)
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While logging AE protections, this bot detected that you recently took the following page protection actions. These action(s) seemed to be AE actions based on the edit summaries, but the bot wasn't able to tell which arbitration case they related to:
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help
Can you move indigenous people arctile so I can edit from contieous topics to non contieuus topics from semi protection.
OK? Ooson1 (talk) 00:53, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- No, that would have to be decided at arbitration enforcement. Daniel Case (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
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Question
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Monyul_Super_League#
can this be nominated for deletion Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 02:49, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- I would say it needs more sources, at the very least, establishing notability (And wouldn't it have been smarter to create the article about the league first, rather than its first season? That's usually where you'd find more sources). Daniel Case (talk) 03:36, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Federation_Cup_(India)&action=history
- edits between march 28 and april 25 should be removed, user warned... i tried manually Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 11:54, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Removed? How do you mean? It looks like you already did that. Daniel Case (talk) 01:13, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- 👍 Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 11:52, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- Removed? How do you mean? It looks like you already did that. Daniel Case (talk) 01:13, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
List of ice cream flavors
Requesting stronger, indefinite protection for this page. As soon as protection expires, disruptive editing resumes: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_ice_cream_flavors&curid=42416319&action=history Thank you! - Ram1751 (talk) 01:55, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
Done Indef semi. Daniel Case (talk) 02:37, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
Civility issue
Would you mind looking into a civility issue with editor Matt-Dimension-C136 within this edit? NJZombie (talk) 12:50, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
TAs
Hi Daniel. Recently, a large number of TAs have been pushing changes related to alternative names in the article Szczecin. They appear to be operated by PJK/Urabura. In the last days, 3 TAs made/reverted edits in the article in quick succession: ~2026-24986-66, ~2026-25284-13, and ~2026-25473-89. Reasons I believe these accounts belong to PJK/Urabura:
- Edits to alternative names in articles about Polish cities are among their most typical contributions, e.g. here
- The argument "WP:DUCK does not apply" in this edit summary – this same argument was also made by Maxbeirut in their block appeal
- As an example, they cite Głogówek in this edit summary, a low-visibility article I recently edited, which they likely spotted in my contributions
Also, last month, this TA started another discussion about alternative names on the talk page and brought up the same "New Amsterdam" example as PJK so it seems likely that this is another sock (and probably also this TA, who expressed the same opinion just 30 minutes later).
Would you mind taking a look at this? JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 02:15, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- Alright. I will get to this soon. Daniel Case (talk) 17:06, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
- OK, looks like I got them all. Daniel Case (talk) 05:10, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for taking the time to review this. JeanClaudeN1 (talk) 06:25, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
Question on application of CANVASS
Hi, I don't think we've ever spoken but I saw you'd written APPNOTE is generally applied only to actual discussions where there may be valid reasons for different outcomes. It does not, in my experience, ever apply to misconduct noticeboard reports.
[21] Can I ask if what you're saying is that the canvassing policy applies in discussions where editors reach a consensus, but not in situations where conduct are reported to admins like ANEW or AE?
The context is that there's a discussion on this at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Canvassing after someone accused someone else of trying to canvass someone to the AE report. (I am not hte filer, filee, the canvasser, the canvassee and my involvement is minimal). I just remembered that you'd written something like this, which makes sense to me, but seems not to be the common understanding, so I want to try and work out what the community norm actually is. Samuelshraga (talk) 08:54, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hmm ... yes, that is exactly what I meant, and given that the wording of APPNOTE (especially the four sub-bullet points under the fifth one) strongly suggests it was written with editorial discussions in mind, I can't see any other interpretation.
- Here's the link to the request for my attention referred to (ironically, a request made by a user who just got banned by ArbCom). I don't really see a request for an admin knowledgeable about enforcement in a particular conduct-related policy area violates even the spirit of CANVASS as presently written. I'd be curious to see the edit the discussion you linked to is about.
- That discussion really isn't about that policy, rather the dissimilarity of Wikipedia procedures to those in a court of law. That said, I, too, would be curious as to what, exactly, The Bushranger means here. Daniel Case (talk) 02:52, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
- It's that as I read WP:CANVASS, pinging an editor who you believe will support you to an enforcement discussion is
notification done with the intention of influencing the outcome of a discussion in a particular way
. Now that it's been pointed out, I suppose I can see the intent being that it's only intended to apply to editorial discussions; but then again, point #4 saysOn the talk pages of a user mentioned in the discussion (particularly if the discussion concerns complaints about user behavior)
(emphasis added), which would imply it applies to all discussions, not just editorial ones, which is one reason I read it as applying to all discussions. If the actual intent is for it only to apply to editorial ones, that should probably be clarified in it. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:40, 29 April 2026 (UTC)- +1 As with too many of our policies (and, to be fair, many real-life statutes), the drafting took place with one situation in mind but not the possible wider implications of the words used, which can (and has} led to unintended consequences down the line.
- I mean, I don't see what purpose is served by applying it to conduct discussions, at least not in the same way as editorial discussions. Admins pinged to conduct discussions, as I was in the cited instance, are not in the same position as they (or any other editor) would be in an editorial discussion. Admins, especially those familiar with the prior history of the editors involved, have a unique perspective on such discussions, and the authority (and indeed sometimes the responsibility) to use the tools and take action.
- I would lastly note that in the discussion in question, I was pinged from the noticeboard, not via my talk page, so point #4 wouldn't apply (and I can see why—that way it was public and everyone involved could see it; whereas it might look a little shifty if I had suddenly popped in as if I had just happened to see the discussion and the message on my talk page had only been discovered afterwards). Daniel Case (talk) 18:10, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
- @The Bushranger returning to this as the canvassing allegation which led me to query this is now part of it's own new AE filing (in which I'm totally uninvolved), and led me to think about this again.
- You said that the wording
On the talk pages of a user mentioned in the discussion (particularly if the discussion concerns complaints about user behavior)
implies that it applies to "all discussions, not just editorial ones". My point when starting this is that I think the distinction isn't between conduct and editorial discussions, but between discussions that come to a consensus of all editors in good standing, and forums which are adjudicated by admins like AE/ANEW. If I summon 100 like-minded people to ANI, I think it's still canvassing just as if I summoned them to Talk:The Little Mermaid. - If I ask someone to weigh in on an WP:AE filing, I don't think it's canvassing. It can easily fall foul of other things, like gaming word limits or battleground, but the point is that if I could summon 100 regular editors to vote at AE, it wouldn't affect the outcome. This distinction, and not the editorial/conduct one, seems consistent. Samuelshraga (talk) 19:34, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- It's that as I read WP:CANVASS, pinging an editor who you believe will support you to an enforcement discussion is
Quick note
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysia_A1_Semi-Pro_League&diff=prev&oldid=1351469077
Allowed in infobox ?! Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 12:20, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- It should be sourced and in the article, but by itself there's no reason it shouldn't be in the infobox. Daniel Case (talk) 18:11, 30 April 2026 (UTC)
Request for Protection for Frequently Vandalized Articles
Hello, I saw about a week ago that you put a semi-protected status on Dieter F. Uchtdorf[22] and Ronald A. Rasband[23] due to vandalism due to RFPP and WP:CT/BLP. These men are two apostles for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and pages about these leaders generally draw vandalism. Even since that time, Dale G. Renlund received similar vandalism, which you also protected.[24] Within the Church, there are twelve Apostles and three members of the First Presidency, all of which attract similar edits. Would you put a similar protection status on these other living leaders of the Church?
12 Apostles (I removed the ones that have already been protected): David A. Bednar, Quentin L. Cook, Neil L. Anderson, Gary E. Stevenson, Gerrit W. Gong, Ulisses Soares, Patrick Kearon, Gérald Caussé, Clark G. Gilbert.
First Presidency: Henry B. Eyring, Dallin H. Oaks, and D. Todd Christofferson.
If you would like further proof of vandalism attempts to these pages, let me know and I'll compile a list. I recognize this is kind of a long list, but I would appreciate the reduction of vandalism on these pages. Thank you for all you do for Wikipedia! Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 16:45, 1 May 2026 (UTC)
Pretium Partners, assistance please
Hello Daniel Case, I am the declared paid editor for Pretium Partners. I'm reaching out because I noticed that you are listed as a member of Project New York and Project Urban studies and planning, and that you've made significant contributions to articles in the financial industry. Might you be willing to review my edit request on the Talk page of Pretium's article? I made the most basic edits myself; the remaining edits need additional review/input. If you approve of these changes, I am happy to implement and save you some time. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you, B for Pretium (talk) 12:46, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
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Euphemisms
Concerning this edit, constructions like taken their own lives
seem too euphemistic, they're certainly less direct. What's your perspective? fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 08:15, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
- I don't see how that could be euphemistic in the slightest ... can it possibly be read in any other way? The point is that MOS:SUICIDE counsels:
The phrase committed suicide is neither recommended nor banned on the English Wikipedia, although "style manuals have come to avoid commit suicide, which is now considered insensitive because of its whiff of criminality". There are many other appropriate, common, and encyclopaedic ways to describe a suicide
- I grant that "took their own life" isn't among the suggestions, but it uses the word "includes", which usually indicates a non-exhaustive list. Daniel Case (talk) 17:25, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
Pages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaber_Al-Ahmad_International_Stadium Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 05:11, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Handball_Federation_of_India&redirect=no Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 05:13, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- (both need watching, handball was messed again) Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 05:15, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MTax00 (warning)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Hotspurs_F.C.# (and any other similar pages that need major pov clearing) Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 04:59, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- (both need watching, handball was messed again) Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 05:15, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
Capital punishment by country
Hi, Daniel, on 8 March 2026 you semiprotected the article Capital punishment by country. Now, user:LaloAlvarezGzz780 has resumed his disruptive editing, which, frankly, I no longer have the patience to monitor. I wonder if there's a way to stop him. Thanks. Jeanambr (talk) 15:59, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- This seems like we need to focus on this individual user ... Escalating to ECP would stop him, yes, but it seems like he's the only problematic user on that page at the moment.
- He needs more recent warnings (I may take care of this myself; I'm not sure). Revert anything he did that needs it, and then report him to AIV for disruptive editing and not communicating if he returns. Daniel Case (talk) 18:01, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- Actually, I just saw ... he got a final warning recently. Hasn't edited in five days ... we'll see what happens. Daniel Case (talk) 18:23, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- Actually, again, that warning is almost a year old. So he needs a new one. Will do if I see reverts. Daniel Case (talk) 19:31, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- I apologize, but my English is rather poor, so I'm not sure I understood your answers correctly. In fact, the last warning he received from user:IdiotSavant was in March of this year, about two months ago. And later, on May 8th, 9th, and 10th, he made a number of new edits, which I haven't reverted yet, just to avoid causing a stir. Should I have?
- P.S.Unfortunately, I don't know what the acronyms ECP and ACV mean. Jeanambr (talk) 22:29, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- ECP is extended-confirmed protection, which limits editing to editors who have made at least 500 edits and been active for 30 days. That would apply to him.
- AIV is the administrator intervention against vandalism page, where reports of editors acting like this are often made and acted on.
- Yes, the last warning they got was in March, which was so long ago as to be stale. Above it on their talk page is an actual last warning, meaning do this again and you're blocked. But that's just shy of a year old.
- If someone hasn't gotten warnings over what they've been doing, at least to a greater extent than he has, you can't be surprised when they do it again. In most situations, you want warnings to be recent and firm enough that they had to have understood they were not to go on. Daniel Case (talk) 00:22, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
- Actually, again, that warning is almost a year old. So he needs a new one. Will do if I see reverts. Daniel Case (talk) 19:31, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- Actually, I just saw ... he got a final warning recently. Hasn't edited in five days ... we'll see what happens. Daniel Case (talk) 18:23, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
About edit question
can you unlock wikipedia so people new can edit from extended confirmation to semi auto confirmed I think no vandalism exist thanks? Daniel Case Ooson1 (talk) 23:43, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
- Depends on the page in question. Of course, as the intro material to WP:RFPP/D points out, asking for a reduction in protection on the grounds that no vandalism or disruption has occurred is like saying that you should start leaving your house unlocked since nobody has broken in since you started locking it at night. Daniel Case (talk) 01:52, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
Office Space
Hi there. So I understand you reverted my edit here, and while it may be true that there is one film, you should pay close attention to the article itself. There is; in fact; a musical play, a mobile game, and talks of sequels. Also, there was a short film that the film itself was based on. So if anything, it does technically counts as a franchise, even it is a single film. Dr. Gregory House's Missing Cane (talk) 14:56, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- OK ... I admit I had only looked at the last section about a possible sequel (which I doubt will happen, but I doubted until last year there would ever be a sequel to The Devil Wears Prada, and look at what's been winning the box office the last couple of weeks. So I'll restore your edit. Daniel Case (talk) 17:04, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, but that won't be necessary. I already reverted. Haha. Dr. Gregory House's Missing Cane (talk) 17:25, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- I saw. No worries ... Daniel Case (talk) 17:26, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, but that won't be necessary. I already reverted. Haha. Dr. Gregory House's Missing Cane (talk) 17:25, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
Protection of Hindutva boycott of Hindi cinema
Hi Daniel Case, I noticed you protected Hindutva boycott of Hindi cinema under ARBPIA, but it seems to relate more to SA instead; was this intentional? Best, Staraction (talk · contribs) 17:51, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
- Probably an error born of doing this late and in some haste. I can relog it. Daniel Case (talk) 15:23, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
Title
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2026_SAFF_Club_Championship&diff=prev&oldid=1354438895
more similar edits, please few-month protection Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 05:04, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
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What did you make of the MOS:ROLEBIO argument? voorts (talk/contributions) 21:29, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
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Sleeper?
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lewishamilll&diff=prev&oldid=1350830949 Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 06:40, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025%E2%80%9326_I-League_3&diff=prev&oldid=1355658849
- slight warning... Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 09:19, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
- OK ... who's the sockmaster again? The second account has reverted itself and then started a draft article?
- My time over the next three days may be limited due to our holiday weekend here in the US. Daniel Case (talk) 18:09, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
- Lewis - master...
- Second account, see sandbox and relations to article Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 20:45, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
Lake Gistova/Gramoz/ Gramozit, revisionist editing on the Albanian page of Wikipedia
Greetings Daniel, Please forgive me but I would like to add that certain people are starting again the same revisionism concerning the location of lake Gistova or Garmozit or Gramoz or Gistove as it is widely known. regrdless its the same Glacier Alpine lake. The new revisionism now takes place in the Albanian page using unidentified bots. I edited, again the article but they have my edit on review as pending? Is that real? I Cite Primary Albanian Governmental sources on my discussion but they (unidentified bots) just change the page again and again. The person who accepted the un identified review on April 24, 26 and changed the content on the Albanian page of Wikipedia on Lake Gistova/Gramos/ Gramozit is called Mr. Klein Meci.
Please, I need assistance on this matter from any administrator that can help on this matter. They cannot use revisionism when facts exist and the matter has been already adjudicated. Thank you for your attention, Aetolia.
(PS I already notified the Albanian editor Mr. Klein Meci who accepted the change concerning the location of lake Gistova by an un identified bot?)
- Greetings Mr. Klein Meci
- Lake Gistova or Gramoz or Gramozit which happens to be the same Lake under different Albanian names happens to be part of the Hellenic Republic. It is not shared with Albania and has already been adjudicated in Wikipedia as Lake Gistove/Garmozit/Gramos just by using Albanian Primary and Official Sources only which are also under the Jurisdiction of the Albanian Prime Ministry. Lately, have seen bots or unidentified person changing the border reality on this matter on the Albanian version of Wikipedia. Actually you have reviewed a change like that on April 24 , 2026 and was approved by you? If it was not approved by you I apologize in advance. Please redress this matter quickly as it was original sighted in the Albanian Wikipedia page. Additionally, I have already informed and reported this matter on Wikipedia on as well and I am looking an answer on this topic. Border revisionism should not be allowed. Clearly the Albanian Military Topographic Institute and the National Territorial Planning Agency of Albania both confirm the lake is not in Albania
- ALBANIAN Governmental Agency
- https://akpt.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=ff270e99f5be45f19c7b7a1e3e618b27 Here as well the official Albanian map shows clearly where the Lake Gistova lies.
- Institutin Topografik të Ushtrisë
- Official Albanian Military Topographical maps: You can zoom in, very easy
- https://shop.geospatial.com/publication/38PCREFVGPMH4RPD0MSAVZHMV6/Albania-1-to-100000-Scale-Topographic-Maps
- see also
- https://shop.geospatial.com/publication/0K48DGWKGBQ44E21WWYBAJKMS7/Albania-1-to-50000-Scale-Topographic-Maps
- The State Authority for Geospatial Information (ASIG) (Albanian: Autoriteti Shtetëror për Informacionin Gjeohapësinor) The agency is under the supervision of the Prime Minister's Office.
- https://geoportal.asig.gov.al/map/?auto=true
- Official Albanian geospatial primary sources confirm this placement unequivocally. The Agency for the State Cadastre and Geospatial Information (ASIG) Geoportal, when viewing the 2007 20 cm resolution orthophoto layer (selectable in the left/bottom panel as "2007 20 CM" or similar under Orthoimagery/Historical Maps), clearly shows the lake at high zoom levels near projected coordinates 567362.404 E, 4470179.392 N (in the Albanian national projection system). The high-resolution 2007 aerial imagery—produced and hosted by Albania's official geospatial agency—depicts the lake entirely south of the border ridge/watershed, with no Albanian boundary line crossing the water body or including it within Albanian territory. This visual evidence aligns with publications from the Albanian Military Topographic Institute and the National Territorial Planning Agency (AKPT), which exclude Lake Gistova from Albanian border delimitations.
- Mapping errors on some commercial platforms (e.g., historical inaccuracies on Google Maps placing the border across the lake) have led to online discussions and occasional media reports, but these stem from technical glitches, not official claims or disputes. Primary sources from both countries, including ASIG's 2007 orthophoto, support the lake's full location in Greece.
- • Neutrality: Removes unsubstantiated "Albanian perspectives" of overlap, as no official Albanian government or geospatial data supports this; it avoids amplifying fringe media narratives (e.g., from Albanian outlets like Pamfleti).
- • Clarity and Enhancements: Adds precise coordinates and historical context for verifiability. Includes elevation and size for better reader context without altering the article's encyclopedic tone.
- Thank you for your attention, Mr. Klein Meci and I am Looking for an answer on this matter.
- Facts are Sacred Comments are Free
Aetolia (talk) 19:55, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
ALSO THEY ADDED ONCE MORE LAKE GRAMOZIT/GISTOVA IN GATEGORY OF LAKES OF ALBANIA. Please I need help on this matter? https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategoria:Liqene_n%C3%AB_Shqip%C3%ABri — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aetolia (talk • contribs) 20:21, 23 May 2026 (UTC)
- +1 to Izno's response. Daniel Case (talk) 04:06, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
- This is the person/bot (1) who makes the changes on lake Gistova/Gramozit on the Albanian page. As far as the Administrator Klein Muçi (2) has not replied yet on my question of review of allowing changes without facts. Please I am looking for a dispute resolution on this matter. It is not fair a bot or someone else playing for time to allow this happening even as we talking. Personally, I don’t think that is a coincidence, therefore I am looking for a resolution on this matter.Thank you for your attention on this matter, sincerely Aetolia
- 1) This user account is a bot that uses PHP, operated by Cyberpower678 (talk) and Harej (talk). It is not a sock puppet, but rather an automated or semi-automated account for making repetitive edits that would be extremely tedious to do manually.
- This bot runs on Wikimedia Toolforge.
- 2)https://sq.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=P%C3%ABrdoruesi_diskutim:Klein_Mu%C3%A7i&oldid=2983331#c-Aetolia-20260523190800-Lake_Gramozit/_Gramoz/Lake_Gistova Aetolia (talk) 16:12, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysia_Super_League&diff=prev&oldid=1356343641
regular user made unsourced edits, has history of lower english level, if continues please warn Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 05:12, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2026%E2%80%9327_AFC_Challenge_League&diff=prev&oldid=1355727414
- repeating... few month protection suggested Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 06:16, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tupapa_Maraerenga_F.C.&diff=prev&oldid=1356356045
- (protection or warning to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:F312489) Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 07:05, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Durand_Cup&diff=prev&oldid=1355907199
- (all recent ip edits of above article should be reverted, with warning / protection) Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 10:01, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Football_at_the_National_Games_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1355922221 (same) Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 10:03, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=B._C._Roy_Trophy&diff=prev&oldid=1355922622 (same) Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 10:03, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mir_Iqbal_Hussain_Trophy&diff=prev&oldid=1355923023 Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 10:04, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rajmata_Jijabai_Trophy&diff=prev&oldid=1355921644 Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 10:04, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/~2026-31088-42
- Almost all of this is vandalism Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 10:05, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rajmata_Jijabai_Trophy&diff=prev&oldid=1355921644 Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 10:04, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mir_Iqbal_Hussain_Trophy&diff=prev&oldid=1355923023 Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 10:04, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=B._C._Roy_Trophy&diff=prev&oldid=1355922622 (same) Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 10:03, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Football_at_the_National_Games_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1355922221 (same) Эльдар Шукоров (talk) 10:03, 27 May 2026 (UTC)



