Draft talk:Lyadh

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Additional feedback

The main problem with the draft is that Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and we do not generally have articles about words. If you can turn it into an encyclopedic article about a concept, and demonstrate its WP:Notability through significant coverage of the topic in reliable sources, then it can become an article. Additional feedback may be found at WP:Teahouse#Article title. Mathglot (talk) 07:28, 18 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Now at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1291#Article title. Mathglot (talk) 00:44, 26 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Response to talk page question

Courtesy link: Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1291 § Article title

Copy of discussion originally at User talk:Mathglot#Re: Draft:Lyadh.

Hi @Mathglot, hope you're well. I noticed that Lyadh has been moved to Draft:Lyadh. I also read the message you left at WP:Teahouse#Article title. Thank you for reviewing the article and for your inputs. I appreciate moving it to draft rather than taking a deletion route. I understand that you were trying to improve the article and acting in good faith, and I am genuinely grateful for that. Hence, I wanted to address some of your points.

I wanted to briefly explain my perspective on the subject. I understand that Wikipedia isn't a dictionary (unlike Wiktionary) and that words have no place here, unless they are notable enough to warrant inclusion in the encyclopedia. However, Wikipedia does have articles on words/phrases when the subject goes beyond a simple lexical definition and represents a notable cultural, emotional, or social concept. To cite some examples, we have articles on hygge, niksen, dolce far niente, hiraeth, sehnsucht, ubuntu, saudade, etc. Please note that in citing these, I'm not attempting to use the WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument, I'm simply trying to demonstrate, partly, the reasoning behind creating Draft:Lyadh, and why it exists in the state that it currently does.

My intention with Lyadh was not to create an article merely about any Bengali word, but about an evidently culturally recognised Bengali concept expressed through that term. In common Bengali usage, it refers to more than just "laziness" as a dictionary meaning; instead it conveys a specific state or attitude involving guiltless/intentional idleness, relaxation, pleasure in doing nothing, and a broader social/cultural nuance --- something to do with one's emotions (hence, the mention of "untranslatability" - which is also backed by sources; and also, the "Similar words" section - since Italian and Dutch do indeed have words that are very close in meaning and idea to Lyadh). Thus, in that sense, I believe it is closer to the kinds of concepts represented by the aforementioned examples.

However, I do indeed take your point that certain parts of the article, such as perhaps the lead sentence and some other bits, may have been framed it too much as a "word" rather than foregrounding and highlighting the concept/cultural nuance of the subject itself. This is fair criticism, and I’m happy to rework the draft accordingly by recasting the lead and focusing a couple touches more on the cultural concept surrounding the word --- however, if I'm being honest, I might need some help with it haha.

Also, with respect to WP:Notability, I would like to state that I believe the topic itself is notable and does have substantial and meaningful independent/significant coverage; however, I appreciate that the article, especially the lead, in its current state may not exactly reflect emphasis on the cultural concept as much as it should.

Thank you again for the feedback, and I'll try to improve the draft with these points in mind. I would appreciate some help and guidance vis-a-vis how I should go about it. Regards, Dissoxciate (talk) 15:01, 25 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Mathglot, I just wanted to add that I did read your comment at the Teahouse (now archived). I noticed you specified it on the article talk page; thank you for that. Let me know how to proceed with the article and what you think about the points above. Thanks, Dissoxciate (talk) 08:43, 26 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Dissoxciate, I'm going to consolidate discussion here, instead of having messages about this draft in three places. With one exception (ubuntu), the examples you quoted from my comment are all articles I listed because they should not exist imho per WP:NOTDICT, so there is some irony in your using them to attempt to support the opposite point of view.

That notwithstanding, what counts in your draft is the topic, and the state of the draft. You get to choose the topic of any article you wish to write, and if you want it to be about the word Layadh itself, it should probably be retitled Draft:Layadh (term). (But you don't want that I think, and if you did, I can virtually guarantee that it will be declined as non-notable.) On the other hand, as it appears you want it to be about the concept (the only possible route to an encyclopedic article, imho), much of the current content needs to be changed or removed. I already commented at the Teahouse about this in more detail so no need to repeat those comments here. The first thing you have to demonstrate is that the concept is notable, and the second is to make sure that there isn't already an article on the same topic, perhaps under some other name; i.e., make sure your draft is not an unintentional WP:REDUNDANTFORK. You can also look at Help:Your first article for general guidance. Do you have some more specific question in mind? Mathglot (talk) 03:11, 27 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]