User talk:Flyingphoenixchips

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Zing chibai & ka lawm a che! (Good morning & welcome!) Thanks for stopping by my corner of Wikipedia! I'm Flyingphoenixchips or simply if you want you can call me Adrian, which was the name given to me during Baptism. Fyi, I disclose that I am a member of the India Research Watch Please assume good-faith and I am always happy to chat. Whether you're here about an edit, a question, or just to say chibai, you're in the right place.
💬 What I work on I'm particularly interested in articles related to: Physics This is what my field is. I am a PhD candidate, trying to get a PhD in applied Physics. I am mostly interested in nanoscience, particularly Quantum Nanofluidics, Nanorheology of Quantum Dot Suspensions, Phonon-Mediated Viscoelasticity in Nanostructures, Electrohydrodynamics and Casimir and van der Waals Rheology Mizo language, culture & history , from Cheraw bamboo dance to Mizo loanwords Northeast India geography, people, organisations, festivals Improving sourcing adding reliable references to under-cited articles Translation helping bring Mizo-language knowledge to English Wikipedia 🤝 Feel free to ping me about Articles, edits, or sourcing questions Collaboration ideas on NE India topics Mizo language queries or translation help Or just drop a friendly chibai! Mizoram — Land of the Highlanders Mi (Person) + Zo (the community) + Ram (land) Editor Stats Primary focus: Mizoram, NE India Languages: Mizo, English, Hindi, Hakha Chin, Intermediate Chinese, Some Karbi, Some Assamese Joined: See my contribs Policy: Assume Good Faith always
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Hey Flyingphoenixchips, excellent work on Wikipedia! @Kelob2678 pointed out that you may use AI in your work. To which you replied, "I used a script to organize bare references, yes. [I] did not use [it] for writing." It seems that text from your article was likely AI-generated, and others appear to have AI generation with human review. Since you are a native speaker of English from your WP:Babel user template. I wanted to let you know that I left you some AI-generated tags. If you think this is wrong, let me know. CostalCal (talk) 02:29, 9 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @CostalCal, thanks for pointing this out. So what I had been doing is creating self written articles on local drive with annotations with specific references, and use a python script to organise it all and push edits onto my wikipedia account. The script does use two agents to format the paper and organise the references. Was not quite sure, if this would fall under No LLM guidelines of wikipedia. will have a look at the tags you made, and improve it accordingly. Thanks again, much appreciated Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 03:51, 9 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying. However, under WP:AI, "When exploring AI techniques and systems, the community consensus is to prefer human decisions over machine-generated outcomes until the implications are better understood." Using LLM for anything on Wikipedia is a mistake I once made: Wikipedia:WikiProject AI Cleanup/Noticeboard/Archive 2#Mass AI use by CostalCal. Using a Python script for editing isn't allowed if you haven't gotten approval from the WP:Bot Approvals Group. CostalCal (talk) 04:32, 9 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Got it, thanks. It was just a bit annoying to keep formatting the references and things in wikitext over and over, so I was tempted to automate it. I'll try doing things myself from now on and will try to get it approved. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 13:01, 9 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

That fails to explain the bucketloads of AISIGNS in your edits. Either your agents are doing something far beyond what you have told them to do or there is some information we are not privy to here. Fermiboson (talk) 13:16, 9 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The script instructs the agents to convert a markdown I had written to wikitext and pushed edits in bulk. The thing is I structured the markdown with references marked as "$", and the agents handled formatting and pushing those. I did test and verify that the references were correct after each run, but I am not sure why AI signs are showing up. I hadn't looked at the specific contents until @CostalCal pointed out. Yes, it does seem to me that the conversion was altering sentence structure beyond what I caught. I apologize for that. I will clean up the affected articles manually and stop using this method going forward. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 13:24, 9 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your transparency. Fermiboson (talk) 13:25, 9 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

thanks again for the heads up, I am working on fixing all of the other articles Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 13:41, 9 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manipur Institute of Technology. Your edits do not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use your sandbox. Such more could ban you. SatnaamIN (talk) 12:29, 21 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

? Please again explain how my comments were factually incorrect, please do not resort to an edit war Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 12:32, 21 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flyingphoenixchips. Thank you for your work on Park Dong-hyuk (soldier). Another editor, Mariamnei, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for your work on this article. Please add a source for "For years, the men of PKC-357 were barely acknowledged." Thanks and have a good day!

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Mariamnei}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Mariamnei (talk) 08:12, 21 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review and suggestion. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 12:42, 21 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Flyingphoenixchips. I've closed the Yaithing Konu AfD. This was open for a number of weeks with varying opinions from different editors. I genuinely don't know why a canvassing banner was applied, as I didn't see any canvassing from any participants, including yourself. This was a pretty clear notability versus editorial disagreement. I don't think either a keep or merge/redirect could have been performed here without serious disagreement taken from the opposing side, so no consensus made the most sense. I definitely recommend opening a merge proposal.

If you feel this was a WP:BADNAC, I will vacate the close. No WP:DRV required. I felt able to perform the close as, despite the disagreement in the discussion, the close was straightforward. It was also requested by one of the participants. I don't usually leave talk page messages for AfD closes I do, but I felt I should explain this one due to the multiple factors involved.

Courtesy pinging @Star Mississippi so they are aware. 11WB (talk) 22:38, 21 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping.

I think this is a perfectly fine NAC, @11WB. There wasn't a consensus, nor was there interest in participating further. You identified that in the same way I would have and I suspect the same is true for most admins. Language access is clearly a factor. Since merge now lives at AfD, I don't know if opening one right now makes sense: editor hat, not admin hat. This is just my opinion. Maybe see if a Talk page discussion helps first @Flyingphoenixchips? Star Mississippi 01:28, 22 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

That's true. Following PAM would result in an AfD right after an AfD. Technically allowed, but it could look WP:POINTy (attempting to push through a consensus for something). Fully concur with the talk page discussion suggestion. That would definitely be the best way forward! 11WB (talk) 01:33, 22 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated the close statement per the above. 11WB (talk) 01:36, 22 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's a good outcome, both for now and for someone who revisits the article down the road. Star Mississippi 02:16, 22 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thanks for letting me know. I am kind of worked up this week, so might not get time to look into that article further. But I shall see and bring it up on the talk page, as I see fit. Thanks again Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 14:43, 22 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mr. @Flyingphoenixchips:, I've read your statement on your profile regarding extending a hand and further contact for those that are interested in working in articles about Northeast India, Mizo culture and other less known articles of the region. I can help regarding culture, languages, mythology and whatever topic crosses one or all three. Regards, KHR FolkMyth (talk) 20:53, 25 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @KHR FolkMyth, great to make your acquaintance as well. Thanks for reaching out. We could definitely work together on these topics. I can also help with translations of Mizo-language articles if that would be useful for the work. Looking forward to collaborating. Best, Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 22:11, 25 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this ː) ǃ Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 01:48, 4 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Flyingphoenixchips 😀 Just saw some cool graphic boxes on your user page. Any idea how to add them... I wanted to add some like This user is from NE, Christian. Where can I get those?

Thanks and regards,

Sam SamBordoloi (talk) 10:15, 27 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Sam,

Thanks ː) You can check the following out at Wikipedia:Userboxes. For Christianity there are a lot of userboxes variant at Wikipedia:Userboxes/Religion/Christianity. There are also the India related userbox at Wikipedia:Userboxes/Location/India

Happy editingǃ @SamBordoloi Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 11:58, 27 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Flyingphoenixchips can anybody add it? Or does adding need permission? SamBordoloi (talk) 08:36, 28 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Yes anyone canǃ Feel free to browse the page and add the userboxes you wantǃ Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 14:44, 28 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

oh cool! 😀 SamBordoloi (talk) 08:03, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Can't help but appreciate your detailed and heavily policy coded nomination rationales at the AFD, especially the recent ones. BhikhariInformer (talk) 01:32, 28 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot ː) ǃǃ Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 01:58, 28 April 2026 (UTC)[reply]

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thank you for helping out! Regards, Sam SamBordoloi (talk) 08:05, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

thanks ː) Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 15:41, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flyingphoenixchips, you will find this commentary familiar, I expect. Good job! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:57, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for sharing Appreciate it ː) Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 21:45, 2 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Another one that is probably using your content: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Lk2E7BfKU&t=1s -- Kautilya3 (talk) 00:41, 19 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Kautilya3 thanks, happy to see that it has helped in documenting the Manipur case well. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 17:28, 20 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I wish I did. I couldn't get past the first section since it was too huge a conflict for a traditional write-up. Some summay perspectives were needed, which I think you added. I quite appreciate that! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:32, 20 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Flyingphoenixchips. Thank you for reviewing my draft. Dipanjan Roy meets criteria 3 of WP:PROF. He is a fellow of National Academy of Sciences, India. I have used the primary sources only for biographical facts, just his career appointments and educational background, consistent with WP:PRIMARY. If you feel that the article relies a lot on primary sources I can take some information out. Can you please take a look again when you have time? HRShami (talk) 05:14, 6 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I understood that, but the issue I had was with primary sources. What you did in the article was basically original synthesis of his research work. He is notable no doubt of it, but either you should find better sources for bulk of the content or remove them @HRShami. See Wikipedia:No original research Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 05:18, 6 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The faculty pages are fine, I am just a bit hesitant with using his peer reviewed publications directly. There should be faculty websites/webpages of his lab that list his research work I suppose, or even press releases from the university? @HRShami Feel free to submit it again, after making these changes Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 05:24, 6 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. The first line of the research felt like WP:OR. I have changed the reference to his website where the same information can be confirmed without any synthesis. Is it okay to resubmit it now? HRShami (talk) 10:30, 7 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @HRShami it looks good now. You can resubmit it, and I should be able to approve it. Also just fyi, it would be better to not cite his individual research papers under career. Maybe use a faculty page to talk about his field of work? Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 16:48, 7 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The papers I have cited are not written by him. They are papers that have cited his work. I have resubmitted the article. Thanks for your help with this. HRShami (talk) 05:42, 8 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I have accepted the same @HRShami. Happy editing Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 18:46, 9 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	For your work on Myanmar and northeast India! Junosangleave a message 10:36, 7 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks appreciate itǃ Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 18:39, 9 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is A Case Study in Biting Newcomers: The Catch-22 of Draft:AuDHD. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 08:57, 12 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this ping Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 00:12, 14 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flyingphoenixchips,

Thank you for your review of my submission on author Gary McAvoy. Per your response, I’ve removed the citations for the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. I've kept the citation for the Guardian since that article specifically cites Mr. McAvoy as the author of the book. I’ve also added an additional reference for a prominent Publishers Weekly review of his work.

I hope these changes are sufficient for acceptance.

Thanks! Rsamborn (talk) 04:09, 14 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flyingphoenixchips,

First, I hope this is the correct place to respond. I couldn't find where to reply directly to your most recent comment. I just uploaded changes for my submission on author Gary McAvoy. I assure you that I did not use an LLM to write the original draft and I am quite opposed to using LLMs. I'm also not quite sure how it would be possible in this case, given the content. If you're referring to my use of em dashes, I've been using them for decades. It's a shame that such a valuable grammatical tool has automatically become associated with LLM usage. In any event, I've deleted them and made a few other small edits. I've also removed the bibliography per your request.

I hope these changes meet your requests and are sufficient for acceptance of the article.

Thanks and have a nice weekend. Rsamborn (talk) 16:50, 23 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Rsamborn, I suspected LLM generation because of the red link categories tags, and the structure in which the wikitext is written, which is characteristic of LLM generation. I use em dash often myself, and won't say that would be the sole reason for suspecting LLM usage. Feel free to resubmit, the subject is notable. Assuming good faith, that LLM wasn't used I shall accept the same. Apologies, if my apprehensions were wrong Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 04:02, 26 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flyingphoenixchips, thanks for the quick reply. I assure you that I did not use an LLM at all and truthfully didn't even know it was possible to do so for a Wikipedia page (not that I would anyway). For the structure and red link categories, I merely copied the structure and format from other pages on Wikipedia. Thanks so much. Please let me know if you require any other edits. Rsamborn (talk) 14:33, 26 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flyingphoenixchips, another reviewer declined my submission, also citing "obvious signs of LLM usage." I don't know how else I can stress that I did not use an LLM to generate this article. It doesn't even seem possible to me. I did notice some broken links, and I removed those. I don't know what else to do. The article is very short and there's nothing in it that looks AI-generated, let alone obvious (because it wasn't AI generated). I'm hoping you can help or offer some guidance on what I can do. Thank you very much. Rsamborn (talk) 21:40, 28 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Rsamborn, a few quick suggestions. Try rewriting the lead in a more casual tone since phrases like "distributes internationally with translations available in French, German, and Spanish" read like a press release. Maybe this is why other editors feel that it is AI generated. Also the "Military service" section repeats what is already in "Early life" so consider merging them. Most importantly, adding a Kirkus or Publishers Weekly editorial review of the fiction would go a long way toward establishing notability. Please Go ahead and resubmit when ready. If it gets declined again, consider posting at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Help desk where experienced editors can give you direct guidance or re-review the article (noting your statement about LLM use), or try Wikipedia:Teahouse which is specifically for newer editors who need support. Good luck! Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 01:57, 31 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

There are no policies on Wikipedia where there is an automatic ban on the use of YouTube sources. According to WP, self-published sources may be used for making uncontroversial factual claims about the source itself, several of the cited videos are from the news organizations or directly from the KDA press conferences and are being used only for the purpose of verifying facts rather than making any analysis or controversial claims WP. WP also mentions that reliability of information is based on the uploader and context; therefore, the videos uploaded by organizations such as ThePrint, News18 Urdu, or any other reliable local media house cannot be considered unreliable simply because they are uploaded on YouTube. Independent secondary sources such as The Indian Express, The Hindu, Daily Excelsior, etc., have also been used for validating general claims in the article Sarim Wani (talk) 16:56, 19 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Indian TV media are notorious for spreading misinformation, and that is why I tagged it as such. However thanks for working on it, I have accepted the same. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 04:44, 26 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

No problem I as a kashmiri am well aware of this problem, however usually kashmiri/ladkahi media doesn't do the same as there isn't much population to misguide. Sarim Wani (talk) 07:49, 26 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I missed an important detail but I don't see how my submission read like an essay or opinion peace. I sourced everything as best I could via official documents uploaded by the boxing federation of India as well as various big news sources with direct interviews with the subject in question. Could you help me maybe expand upon what exactly you thought was opinionated about the article? Boxstodian2 (talk) 11:18, 27 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I had left a comment on the article as well, but I am elaborating on the same herein. Most of the article reads as a promotional piece backed only with non independent sources. Particularly phrases like "humble working class family," "this initially left the family discouraged, but still determined," and "winning over 1,000s of other young men" are storytelling, not WP:NPOV reporting. It builds a redemption arc (father's sacrifice, malnutrition, growth spurt, avenging a past loss) instead of stating facts plainly as an encyclopaedia must. There is also unsourced color (mimicking mitts with bare hands, coaches' remarks about his height) and WP:PEACOCK language ("immense success," "massive upset," "dominating"). Much of it is fight-by-fight blow-by-blow that belongs in match reports, not a biography, which trips WP:NOTNEWS and WP:PROSE. Feel free to add some more references and fix the language. I will let another reviewer take a look if you were to resubmit Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 23:14, 30 May 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Flyingphoenixchips, I just wanted to say thank you for reviewing my Ron Bailey draft. I now (!) understand that you were the one who did the actual review work before it was accepted. Really appreciate it! Campaigner1942 (talk) 18:31, 1 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

ː) happy toǃ Also great work on the articleǃǃ Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 01:52, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

:-D so glad you think so! ~~~~ Campaigner1942 (talk) 02:06, 2 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Damn....that was a heck of a nomination spree ma man! Once again....thanks to your tireless efforts in chaffing the non-notable ones from the notable institutes. BhikhariInformer‬ 📮 ^{(Ping me or else I won't see it)} 03:33, 12 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not so impressed. Please make sure you complete a proper WP:BEFORE before each nomination. Also when there was the WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES RFC it was concluded that there should not be mass nominations that overload AfD Atlantic306 (talk) 00:38, 13 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I noticed on editing Hindu American Foundation you included a ref-cite citation for a source four times; notably, that citation was already in the article, so what this meant was that under references the same article was cited five times. Don't worry about it, I fixed it - but in the future this is how you avoid it:

<ref name="FizzBuzz">{cite ..........}</ref>

Then after doing this once, you can cite the same thing elsewhere by just saying

<ref name="FizzBuzz"/>

And of course, substitute FizzBuzz with whatever is relevant in the article. Happy editing! Ftrhi (talk) 16:46, 18 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Ftrhithanks, I wasn't looking at the whole article so missed it. Thanks for cleaning up!! Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 01:57, 19 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm Zackmann08. I noticed that you recently removed content from Mizo Hmeichhe Insuihkhawm Pawl without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 04:12, 22 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your recent edits to Lee Hee-wan when you modified the page, you introduced unknown parameters. Just because you specify |some_param=some_variable does not always mean that variable will display. The |some_param= must be defined in the template. You can look at the documentation for the template you are using but it is also helpful to use the preview button before you save your edit; this helps you find any errors you have made and ensure that the values you have added are displaying correctly. Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show you what the page will look like without actually saving it. It is strongly recommended that you use this before saving. Note I have likely fixed the error by now so check the history of the page to see how it was fixed. If you have any questions, contact the help desk for assistance. Thank you. Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 21:31, 23 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Sanamahism isn't an officially recognized religion by the Government of India, unlike other minority groups like Sikhs, Jains, or Muslims. So, it doesn't have coverage in Indian census. Same thing for all the small ethnic religions (including Tingkao Ragawang Chapriak, sorry if I misspelled it) of the Naga & Kuki communities of Manipur. So, the information about the religious practices they have are to rely on sources, other than census. And religion is a fluid identity, not rigid. Some section of an ethnicity practice it while some don't. There's no one size fits all rule that each ethnicity should be entirely Christian or Hindu. And about the sources (reputable local media houses from different states of India, because local news are seldom covered in national or international media houses) I have added, those explicitly mention about the people following Sanamahi religion or religious traditions, celebrating the festival together, for the first time. Only 4 selected ethnicities are specifically mentioned repeatedly in different news coverage about sections of their ethnicity (not all the ethnicity population) following the religion, worshipping the deities, and celebrating the festivals. I am not labelling them as totally Sanamahist or totally Christian. And those are not meant for "promotional", but "educational" purposes in my intention. We can reword it if it sounds otherwise to others (I won't be rigid tbh because I am aware that I might be wrong too) but I think it's ok not to completely remove the information because it's unique (mentioning facts about communal harmony and "for the first time" incidents) and notable (having coverage in different sources). I hope you understand that. And thank you for adding additional information on those "stub articles" (stubbed for a long time) as they need adequate contents. Haoreima (talk) 18:52, 23 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Haoreima I will suggest mentioning this information in the body instead of the infobox, as possible links to Sanamahism or broadly the Meitei people. I have added some information about such a link. A brief mention in the body, worded carefully, would be fine. Something like: "In 2026, sections of the Meetei, Chothe, Kabui, and Maring communities jointly observed Sajibu Nongma Panba Cheiraoba for the first time, reflecting a shared Sanamahism tradition." This could perhaps go in the society & culture section.

That said, local news coverage on its own doesn't carry much weight, per WP:NEWSORG and WP:DUE. Several local outlets reporting on the same press conference can amount to one news cycle rather than independent corroboration (WP:RSBREAKING), and identity-related claims about ethnic groups tend to need stronger sourcing under WP:EXCEPTIONAL. So we tend to prefer official census figures before making any such claims. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 19:01, 23 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. In that case, as you are expanding those specific articles, shall I leave that section to you to add it during your writings? Haoreima (talk) 19:05, 23 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to make that addition @Haoreima Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 20:00, 23 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Chibai.

I'm really sorry about that edit in Hindu American. I didn't mean to leave an unconstructive edit.

Thanks, ~ AnonLionCavalier83 (talk) 04:40, 24 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

No worries at all, just be careful in the future :) Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 04:53, 24 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Curious as to why you changed them back to non-diacritics renditions? There is no consensus on diacritics in article names even when compared with common names, several articles use diacritics for languages such as Vietnamese for example. I think the proper rendition should be maintained as it was still recognisable and accessible with redirects and maintained the integrity of the language. I don't believe any more "substantial utility" was obtained making the titles non diacritics while every mention in the article retains it, which is inconsistent. I would suggest changing it back but would like to hear your perspective. Taitesena (talk) 00:04, 25 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Taitesena Thanks for reaching out. I would actually rather say, we should drop them from the body as well. I did this as per WP:UE and WP:COMMONNAME since most English-language reliable sources consistently drop them for these specific festival names. English sources don't habitually use diacritics and thereby I would say this would apply to the rest of the body too, per MOS:CONSISTENT. Also, you should probably only add the native-script form with the diacritics once in the lead parenthetically per MOS:FOREIGNEQUIV, and then whichever form the English language sources use should be followed throughout. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 02:14, 25 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

My point is there is no substantive different between the same spelling with diacritics and those without. The rules apply in so far for places like Florence an English name as opposed to Firenze, regards a substantively different word compared to English usage. I believe Mizo Wikipedia should preserve the correct diacritics and structure because maintaining the accents is not changing the word to a foreign one, nor does removing it make it an English one. Furthermore, a Mizo academic paper jn either English or Mizo normally formally maintain the diacritics (how I corrected the names of chiefs and locations in my pages). According to your logic Suakpuilala should be Sukpilal which is the anglicised version. I heavily suggest the policy should maintain diacritics as it is not an obstacle and removing it does not n crease any utility. Furthermore it preserve the academic and proper naming conventions used in academia. Read the historical journal of Mizoram to see their usage of diacritics being consistent. Taitesena (talk) 02:27, 25 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Taitesena I get what you mean, but this is the English Wikipedia, not the Mizo Wikipedia. Our readers are primarily English speakers who may not know how to interpret or pronounce diacritical marks. WP:UE exists precisely because Wikipedia should be accessible to general English readers, not just specialists. Per WP:COMMONNAME, we as editors are required to follow how English-language reliable sources actually render terms, not how Mizo-language academic papers do. What Mizo journals do internally is not the relevant test for English Wikipedia. Regarding Suakpuilala, dropping diacritics is not the same as respelling with different letters. Also it does not matter what other articles such as in the case of Vietnamese does. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXIST is not a relevant argument. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 03:20, 25 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

You have to remove the diacritics on a justified grounds, because nobody is reading a word with diacritics and without diacritics and saying one is foreign and one isn't. The lack of diacritics in publications before the millennium has to do with lack of standardisation and lack of technical ability to add diacritics,but those that did paved the path for more modern works maintaining diacritics. The diacritics don't alienate any English readers and there is no valid reason of utility to remove them. Zû and Zu, Chhînlung and Chhinlung are not foreign because of diacritics. They are functionally the same word and should be maintained as the more formal version consistent with the naming convention. The use of English versions over native names are for drastic changes and changes preestablished in English language. As I mentioned before the term Florence is universally used by English speakers rather than Italian Firenze. For Mizo words there is no anglicised version of these words, diacritic inclusion is purely a technical factor and does not complicate anything for non native speakers. Assuming that diacritics alienate English speakers and remove them doesn't is absurd. No English speaker sighs with relief seeing Chapchar Kut instead of Chapchâr Kût, they can recognise it's the same name as the previous article names they possibly did used to see. Changing the article name of Florence to Firenze however will misled or confuse speakers. For this reason, I will oppose any further removal of diacritics in Mizo articles in Wikipedia because no utility is gained.if you strongly still hold your opinion we can arbitrate or hold a discussion and vote with the Mizoram Wikipedia group members who also have a stake in this method of style issue. Taitesena (talk) 23:40, 26 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

A more valid example is the Hawaiian page Māhū, much like a tribal culture with diacritics, they maintain it. I am not claiming other stuff exists for the sake of it. This is a valid doctrine among Wikipedia texts, and Mizo articles in Wikipedia is also justified in following the same way for both cultural fidelity and formality of nomenclature. Taitesena (talk) 23:45, 26 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Taitesena, appreciate your detailed response. To me accessibility is utility. That being said... english readers can more easily search, type, and link to titles without diacritics. WP:ASTONISH suggests titles should match what readers commonly encounter in English sources. If English-language sources (newspapers, government publications) continue omitting diacritics while Mizo academic papers use them, that shows divergent conventions, and English Wikipedia follows English language ones per WP:UE as I had already mentioned. However I know that not everyone would have similar viewpoint, and I respect that wholly. but I would say that this would warrant broader input beyond Wikipedia:WikiProject Mizoram. A formal WP:RFC would be appropriate since previous discussions at WP:USEDIACRITICS failed to establish a clear consensus before. So was wondering if you would be willing to co-draft a neutrally-worded RfC on this? Thanks :) Happy editing! Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 02:27, 27 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Kautilya3@EmeraldRange, @Astra Travasso hey reaching out to you guys, to request help in possibly setting up an RfC for this? I wasn't so sure if this should go on an article page or maybe an article talk page? Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 02:36, 27 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The ease of typing and/or searching is not a consideration. In English wikipedia, we use the spellings used in English language sources for the page titles. The diacritic versions can also be mentioned in the lead sentence when necessary. The WP:INDICSCRIPTS policy does not prohibit roman transliterations. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:57, 27 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If you are discussing the change in the Wikipage of Chapchar Kut, I do not have a definitive opinion on this yet. The existing Wikipedia rules must prevail with consensus because there can be some opposing conventions here, some of which I am unaware of. A parallel example in Nagaland would be Tokhü Emong, the harvest festival of the Lotha Naga. I strongly support the spelling of Tokhü which is used in standardised literature but not all government circulars. However, state government-supported events such as the Tokhü Emong Bird Count maintains the spelling. Now that I Googled it, Chapchar Kut on the Aizawl district website does not have the diacritics. So, I return to the point that I do not have a definitive opinion of Chapchar Kut. Astra Travasso (talk) 18:41, 27 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant was do you have experience drafting such an AfC? Was hoping if you could help in setting this up maybe ? Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 10:34, 29 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

These should be discussed on a per page basis first and if you want an RfC for a particular variant of English, then you can address that at the appropriate wikiproject. WP:NCNZ has a specific naming convention for New Zealand English. Generally speaking, English wikipedia articles should use the name that is the most common in reliable English sources. This usually DOES NOT include government sources. We do not follow the official name as a Wikipedia policy.

Tokhu Emong, for example, I would support moving it to Tokhu Emong as all four of the sources cited in the article do not include the diacritic.

The same is true for Chapchar Kut- all of the sources do not use the diacritics. The diacritics belong in the start of the article and the name should also not be in WP:ITALICS as it is not a movie, play, book, song or other art piece. It being in Italics implies that the actual name of the page should be Mizo New Year with something like "called Chapchâr Kût in Mizo" in the body.

In the context of India, you will see that many Sanskrit or religious figures have diacritics because Sanskritists and other classicist researchers tend to do so. You can always redirect from the non-diacrtic name to the diacritical name so typing should not be an issue. I can participate in an RfC if you want, but I am not qualified to bring it up for a RfC. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 20:16, 29 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Would be happy to draft one but I have never done this before. Would be keen to figure this out. Taitesena (talk) 06:22, 29 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Neither have I, but would like to figure this out. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 10:35, 29 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Taitesena, I just got pinged into this conversation so I don't actually know what articles you are referring to in the first place. If you have those English language journal articles that allegedly use the diacritics, you should incorporate them into the relevant articles and add them as citations. As I mentioned above, it might be good to make a formal move discussion on a few articles before bringing up an RFC about Indian English and whether all Indian articles should use diacritics. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 20:26, 29 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flyingphoenixchips. Can you also request for deletion on the article Divisions of the University of Oxford per precedent of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Divisions of the University of Chicago. Thank you. Cfls (talk) 01:57, 25 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Cfls Feel free to nominate this! I am however not so sure, because unlike the other article, this one can be helpful for navigation (articles in the list do exist). Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 02:16, 25 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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@QEnigma Thanks for flagging these and for fixing the Category:Yushania sort keys. Also thanks for the heads up. I will try work through the three articles in the next few days... However tbh I was not quite sure about what you felt was excessive, since the species are obscure enough that there is not always a lot of secondary coverage to weigh against. As per WP:DETAIL we cannot really split these into more than one article owing to notability concerns. Thanks again. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 02:26, 26 June 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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