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A barnstar for you!

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The Editor's Barnstar
Thanks for trying to standardize the college stats tables. Getting rid of those team colors is a real chore. Also, congrats on 200K edits! ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:23, 21 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Added pressure lol. There's like 600 of these left; not sure how long I was continuing. —Bagumba (talk) 17:13, 21 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
What did you search for to figure out there are 600 left? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:12, 21 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: About 570 for NFL players. A few hundred more for non-NFL players. —Bagumba (talk) 21:17, 21 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
When I click the 570 link above, it says there are only 18 left. Wow, did you really do that many? Nice. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:58, 18 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Yeah, one of those things you dont care too much about but then somehow end up wasting time on. I'm on the non-Power 4 FBS schools now, many of which I would have thought were FCS or Division II lol. —Bagumba (talk) 17:36, 18 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
It's surprising sometimes what teams are in the FBS. Keep in mind there are like 120 FBS teams, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:41, 18 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Nevermind, there are 138 FBS teams now. I was still living in like 2014. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:44, 18 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9 Fanboys.[1] —Bagumba (talk) 17:21, 23 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
So silly. That's not even standard. Where do people get these ideas from? lol ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:24, 23 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Speaking of "standard", it seems that college stats tables have a "Season" column, while NFL has "Year" e.g. Tom_Brady#Career_statistics. —Bagumba (talk) 17:30, 23 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'd favor Year over Season since it's shorter and they both mean the same thing. It looks like NBA articles use Year for both college and pro: Anthony Davis. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:31, 23 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: The joys of a standard template ({{NBA player statistics start}}) —Bagumba (talk) 17:37, 23 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Psychedelic. Randomly stumbled upon, as it doesn't even use {{CollegePrimaryStyle}}. —Bagumba (talk) 00:49, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Wow, that might be the worst one ever. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:00, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: United Nations format—Bagumba (talk) 06:02, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: What's the record for most college levels played?[2] —Bagumba (talk) 06:05, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Dang, is the NCAA logo really public domain? LOL. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:42, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
What's the record for most colleges started at? JT_Daniels#College_statistics. Dang COVID era. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:05, 7 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: The new norm with xfer portal and NIL. —Bagumba (talk) 16:29, 7 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: I guess GA reviewers don't notice or care that JC stats are unduly mixed with NCAA (i.e. real college) stats, but then are excluded from the career totals.[3] —Bagumba (talk) 06:47, 29 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
I changed it to "NCAA career". I'm going to assume readers aren't that ignorant. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:01, 29 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Only editors lol. —Bagumba (talk) 15:01, 29 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Lol. We could also potentially do a column for NJCAA and NCAA. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:38, 29 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Mix in the HS stats too![4] I could live with that over the draft measurements. —Bagumba (talk) 15:49, 29 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
There's not a source for Jackson's junior college stats anyway... lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:51, 29 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: On a tangent, Jackson's image reminds me of Hank Gathers' before. Both died young. RIP. —Bagumba (talk) 15:58, 29 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9 BHAM WTF LOL —Bagumba (talk) 18:41, 29 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
LOL. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:46, 29 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
What great colors at Kyle Kennard. I can barely even see the school name. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:54, 1 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: OFFICIAL COLORS!! —Bagumba (talk) 17:07, 1 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Someone drank the Kool-Aid.[5] —Bagumba (talk) 00:53, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Lol. Thanks for fixing it. I don't understand why some people think that's better. It's seven rows longer. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:03, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Some editors dont care about space, like that table. —Bagumba (talk) 17:02, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for pinging everyone to let them know you fixed all of the DYK hooks. Do you want a brownie? People randomly fix the hooks a lot after they're already promoted (I think we've already discussed this though...) It's just that I received another annoying DYK ping this morning (all DYK pings are annoying, it's never anyone saying "great job!") The hook I reviewed says "that Englishman Emmanuel Oyebadejo earned an American football scholarship in the U.S. after just one year of playing the sport?" Someone pinged us and said "while the article says that he first played American football in the UK, it does not say that he was unfamiliar with the sport previously" Yeah, since some guy watching NFL on Youtube is obviously going to get signed to an FBS team with no playing experience. I thought the blokes at In the News said no one in England even cares about American football. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:50, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Feel free to vent. But I paused before figuring out it wasnt me lol —Bagumba (talk) 00:30, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Did you know that this is a pointless cite even though it was the best source for "In 2017, he competed with undrafted rookie Shane Smith for the Giants' fullback position". The removed cite (dated Sept 3, 2017) said "Smith not only had to compete with another undrafted rookie, Jacob Huesman, all spring and summer". Now the only source in the article says "Huesman is listed ahead of another rookie, Shane Smith of San Jose State, at fullback on the unofficial depth chart" That source (dated Aug. 7, 2017) doesn't say he competed with anyone... I thought the DYK police were sticklers for accuracy? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:30, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@WikiOriginal-9: Ah, the neat-and-tidy type, but not a Mr. CiteBundle. —Bagumba (talk) 16:54, 15 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: I restored it. I just assumed the NYP was being blindly removed, but there was still the other one there anyways. Go figure. —Bagumba (talk) 02:29, 17 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

A backwards article. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:52, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@WikiOriginal-9 Pretty much from day 1.[7] How did "prep" ever become associated with public high schools? —Bagumba (talk) 16:16, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
"preparatory" I'm guessing. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:18, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: My dictionary says "usually private", and that's how I hear it used in my parts, but sports pages do say "prep football" for any HS football. I also chuckle at bios that drop in "matriculate". —Bagumba (talk) 16:26, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Is this guy still a redshirt senior? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:19, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@WikiOriginal-9: Always a bad idea to have fields likely to become dated. Any still listed with undeclared major? —Bagumba (talk) 16:30, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
No majors left. The field doesn't work anymore. Also, the college football bio infobox was intentionally set up to keep the colors there forever. I'm not kidding. That was the standard. I always thought it was crazy when I went to an early 20th-century player's article and they had team colors, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:41, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Probably the same boosterism spirit that gives us those rainbow tables. —Bagumba (talk) 16:48, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Here's one I found in the wild: Eddie Mahan. I've removed a lot of those when I come across them but I guess there are still some left. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:07, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Another nice article. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:01, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@WikiOriginal-9: It reads like he's in the xfer portal. —Bagumba (talk) 20:19, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I know right. That didn't even exist yet. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:21, 18 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I will give you this

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To follow up on this, at least in your version it doesn't have two straight sentences of "played" and "played" like in my articles. "Ryan Bee (born November 12, 1995) is an American former professional football defensive end who played for the Washington Redskins of the National Football League (NFL). He played college football at Marshall. He was also a member of the Arizona Cardinals." Yours is less redundant.

I'm probably not going to personally go around changing them though since I know people like Yankees10 and Bluerules might get mad at me, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 13:36, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@WikiOriginal-9: There was/is some editor who changed "football player who was a defensive end" to "football player who played defensive end". —Bagumba (talk) 07:09, 13 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
"football player who played defensive end" Yuck. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:11, 17 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9 for your to-do list.[14] lol. —Bagumba (talk) 07:40, 21 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I already tried fixing that before, but Bluerules just adds it back. "Edit war" appears on his talk page 51 times. That's not even including what he deletes without archiving Facepalm Facepalm ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:11, 22 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
***hole [15][16]. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:36, 2 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Then there's this. —Bagumba (talk) 22:25, 2 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Nikkimaria can't make up his or her mind on how they want to do the leads. Sometimes, it's "American former football player. A quarterback, he played" ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:18, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
[17] Did you know that saying Brady won 7 Super Bowls in the lead is "completely unnecessary"? It's basically the same thing as having his pet cat in the lead. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:45, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I guess it was already in the lead: "and won Super Bowl LV, extending his individual records to ten Super Bowl appearances and seven victories" ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:55, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Yeah, not like he won the Bill Willis Trophy.[18] —Bagumba (talk) 16:56, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Y10 my hero. Of course, Bluerules just added it back like he always does. Something needs to be done about him. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:05, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: What did you have in mind? —Bagumba (talk) 17:12, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I don't think I'm going to do anything at the moment... but I'm honestly not sure how they haven't been blocked yet. Edit warriors don't usually last this long. Like I said, "'Edit war' appears on his talk page 51 times. That's not even including what he deletes without archiving" He has 3 prior blocks for edit warring. Doesn't seem to have learned much. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:28, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Nikkimaria has a third way of writing leads. Take a look at how they bungled up John Elway. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:29, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

So we have:

Which one do I pick? If I pick Bagumba or Nikkimaria, Bluerules will revert me. If I pick Bluerules, Nikkimaria will change it to one of their five versions. Nikkimaria doesn't seem to mind the Bagumba version though. Seriously, what do I do? LOL. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:56, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

@WikiOriginal-9: In light of the World Cup, consider the leads of the other football.[19] —Bagumba (talk) 20:17, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I'll assume that's a joke, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:19, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: I'm not pushing for "footballer", but there's no "football goalie" or "rugby union hooker" to "save" a couple of words. Not to mention that MOS thing. —Bagumba (talk) 20:27, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Can you tell that to Bluerules? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:29, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Somewhere on the to-do list. I've got other low hanging fruit in the meantime. —Bagumba (talk) 20:32, 6 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9 Seriously, what do I do?: Listen to your heart LOL. —Bagumba (talk) 17:35, 7 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
My heart tells me to just wait until Bluerules gets blocked. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:55, 7 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: "football player who was a" > any other non-SOB version > SOB that saves two words —Bagumba (talk) 17:06, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Can you tell that to Nikkmaria? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:11, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: From what I've noticed, she has used "player who was" on pages. I believe it's when people revert that she tries to find a non-SOB compromise. —Bagumba (talk) 17:17, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Well, Bluerules isn't going to accept those other versions either so she should stop trying to please him. He can't be appeased. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:20, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9 Maybe that's what you're waiting for. —Bagumba (talk) 17:28, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: There's the don't even have a standalone football in the lead, let alone link it, that was one this page from day 1 —Bagumba (talk) 00:22, 19 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Protect Miles Bridges?

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trade is held up (see this) and lots of anon traffic prematurely changing team. Rikster2 (talk) 12:40, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Done. —Bagumba (talk) 15:19, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

When your picture is longer than the infobox

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[20] The pictures in pretty much all Wikipedia infoboxes got bigger a year or so ago, and now I have to manually fix these whenever I see them. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:40, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

@WikiOriginal-9: That particular one would be better to crop some of that nondescript jersey. Otherwise, users can control the default size in their preferences. Or you can discuss altering the system default. (Can the picture actually be "longer than the infobox"?) —Bagumba (talk) 16:46, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
"Or you can discuss altering the system default" I said something once about it but they had a good© reason for why it's like that now. "Can the picture actually be 'longer than the infobox'?" I mean the picture is longer than the infobox would be without any picture. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:19, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9 I mean the picture is longer than the infobox would be without any picture: Then make it longer lol. —Bagumba (talk) 17:32, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I wonder what the record for the longest infobox is, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:34, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Keep adding every player of the week and podunk touchdown club's awards. —Bagumba (talk) 17:39, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I like Ben Roethlisberger's 2014 infobox. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:41, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Checkout that version's game-by-game recaps starting at 2007. His page was like the poster child for why I had little hope for WP:NFL at one point. —Bagumba (talk) 18:01, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Sweet Jesus. It was like that for years. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:05, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
"His page was like the poster child for why I had little hope for WP:NFL at one point." You have a good memory: I lost hope on getting much concerted organization on NFL articles a while ago. Was probably after some effort at Ben Roethlisberger to remove undue comparison to Elway in the lead, and the constant game-by-game stat logs in prose. Then there's the plethora of "honors" and obscure records in the infoboxes ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:21, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Also, take note of the infobox caption. "Roethlisberger on June 16, 2012, presenting the Big 33 trophy to Ohio, who won 24-21 in overtime." So bad. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:12, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9 Big 33 WTF LOL. —Bagumba (talk) 18:40, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Let's compare Big Ben's 2014 infobox to what is still there in 2026. checkY means it is still there.
2× Super Bowl Champion (XL, XLIII) checkY
2× Pro Bowl (2007, 2011) checkY
AP NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (2004) checkY
PFWA Rookie of the Year (2004) X markN
9× Diet Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week Winner (2004) X markN
Diet Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Year (2004) X markN
Pittsburgh Steelers Rookie of the Year (2004) X markN
Pittsburgh Steelers Team MVP (2009) X markN
3× AFC Champion (2005, 2008, 2010) X markN
4× AFC Offensive Player of the Week X markN
AFC Offensive Player of the Month (November 2013) X markN
No. 7 jersey retired (Miami University Redhawks) checkY
Most regular season wins in a season, rookie QB — 13 (2004) checkY
First QB to start two Conference Championship games in first two seasons in the NFL (2004 & 2005) X markN
Youngest starting QB ever to win the Super Bowl X markN
Second-youngest quarterback to win two Super Bowls. X markN
Pittsburgh Steelers All-Time Leader (Career Wins, Passing Touchdowns, Pass Attempts, Pass Completions and Passing Yards) X markN
Other Records and Awards X markN ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:20, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I wonder what our resident Steelers fan Bringingthewood thinks about those awards appearing in Big Ben's infobox. ;) Left guide (talk) 01:17, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
You're trolling lol. —Bagumba (talk) 01:21, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Please fix any 'indent' mistakes I make. I like the current version. Everything removed, I believe, is stated per WP:NFLINFOBOXNOT. Outside of a Heisman or national championship, I'm not familiar with the major college awards. I did contact WO-9 today to ask about the PFWA rookie removal. I never even thought about the redundancy. I do understand the reasoning, and there must be plenty of other players out there that have this same issue. P.S. Don't worry, B, I'm leaving "Brayden Wilson aka Iran" alone for tonight. See: Naz Reid. This is why when we speak to amuse ourselves .. bombing them is the only solution. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:53, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Bringingthewood: I left them a gentle {{uw-sportstrans}}. I didn't get the Iran reference. —Bagumba (talk) 02:01, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! Should Josh Green be reverted also? The deal that went south with Iran, the party that can't play with others, reminded me of the foolishness today, thinking that I wasn't talking to the wall, silly me. At least you get to have fun and tell someone to stop now or you're getting blocked. I have to stop, reluctantly, before an edit war starts and/or continues. Maybe I should leave these NBA trades alone, lol. Bringingthewood (talk) 02:15, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Bringingthewood: Reverted Green (I'm not up on all the trade details) —Bagumba (talk) 02:29, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Iran: Stick to sports lol. —Bagumba (talk) 02:30, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Safer that way. ;) - Bringingthewood (talk) 02:46, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
"Brayden Wilson aka Iran" I have no idea what you're talking about, lol. I don't see a Brayden Wilson article. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:02, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
(talk page watcher) @WikiOriginal-9: Just pick someone highly accomplished in a WikiProject that has trouble collectively policing award bloat. The infoboxes for Tom Brady and Tim Duncan spill 1-2 paragraphs deep into the "early life" section on my browser. If you're feeling bold, you could slap a {{Infobox too large}} but some ardent fan's bias may cause them to be in denial and take it personally lol. Left guide (talk) 18:43, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I removed Brady's signature at least, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:47, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Why doesn't Tim Duncan say "Career NBA statistics"? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:49, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Do you mean the infobox? |stats_league= needs to be set. —Bagumba (talk) 23:49, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Left guide: I deleted Brady's infobox entirely for fun. What do you think? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:11, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes? LOL. —Bagumba (talk) 23:55, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I thought of that too: how some articles don't have an infobox at all because of the infobox wars lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:05, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Left guide a WikiProject that has trouble collectively policing award bloat: Besides not listing any at all, is there a gold standard? —Bagumba (talk) 00:02, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Not really, unless we hard-code individualized award parameters on the template-side but that would involve lots of coding work to get everything up to speed; I mentioned it at WT:NFL before. I've sometimes wondered if this is just an NBA/NFL/MLB problem; crowd-sourced editing and unrestricted discretion on high-level matters is a mixture from hell, I'm afraid. Infobox real estate is (supposed to be) valuable, but very few seem to care. Most other fields seem to do just fine maintaining reasonably brief (or at least stable-sized) infoboxes on their top-accomplished people by simply not having an open-season "awards" section in the infobox: random examples include Angelina Jolie, Eminem, Lionel Messi, Wayne Gretzky. Left guide (talk) 01:13, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Left guide Infobox real estate is (supposed to be) valuable, but very few seem to care: It's not enough that Brunson already has NBA Cup MVP listed. —Bagumba (talk) 01:23, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
ClutchPoints seems to care that he won seven "trophies" this year. I've seen other unreliable sources and forum posts say that's the most ever. I guess our reliable sources have some sanity by not recognizing it lol, at least I couldn't find any that did so. Left guide (talk) 01:33, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@Left guideI'm not a fan of Clutchpoints, case in point. Though its use is as inevitable as AI. —Bagumba (talk) 02:05, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I think we can all agree that NBA Cup and Conference Finals stuff in the infobox is silly. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:03, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Not all: WP:NBAINCLUDE, and an ~800 day discussion. —Bagumba (talk) 19:10, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Facepalm Facepalm ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:12, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Brunson: Robert V. Geasey Trophy? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:33, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: I wouldn't revert if someone deleted them. —Bagumba (talk) 19:11, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Don't get me started on Gretzky's infobox. I probably sound like a broken record complaining about that.... lol. Also, it's weird how Gretzky is a featured article but it doesn't say anywhere what position he played (except the infobox). ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:09, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Also, "is a Canadian former professional ice hockey player and former head coach." ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:12, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9 Perhaps ambiguous if "former" modifies both, but more problematic if he was still a coach. —Bagumba (talk) 19:06, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: There's MOS:INFOBOXEXCEPTIONS:

There will be exceptions where a piece of key specialised information may be placed in the infobox, but is difficult to integrate into the body text.

I've posited before that jersey numbers meet that criteria, and positions would generally be in the same boat IMO. Sometimes there also seems to be a collective lack of motivation or skill to flesh these things out in prose, if there are secondary sources covering them in the first place. Left guide (talk) 00:16, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
It's still kind of weird on a featured article. Kobe's article mentions him being a guard eight times in prose. The GOAT Gretzky didn't "revolutionize" the centre position? His style of play and physical attributes sections don't even say anything about centre. Of course, Centre (ice hockey)'s lead picture says "Wayne Gretzky played his entire NHL career as a centre." You wouldn't know it from reading his article though, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:04, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
I've actually complained to someone (maybe Bagumba?) about Messi's awards section too before surprisingly, lol. The first line in the Honours section says:
How is listing the name of a league an honor? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:19, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Also, is Ballon d'Or really the best individual award Messi's won? Doesn't seem likely but it's the first one listed for whatever reason. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:37, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Also, it doesn't say how many times he won that stuff (like 10×). You have to individually count everything... ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:40, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
@WikiOriginal-9: Seems by design e.g. Thierry Henry#Honours ... or MOS:ENGVAR lol. —Bagumba (talk) 19:03, 9 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Am I crazy?

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Wikipedia:Help_desk#Template:Subject_bar_creating_whitespace ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:25, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

@WikiOriginal-9: I see a gap, about the height of a row of normal text. Not sure if that's normal, but otherwise I dont pay attention down there much. Sometimes these things are browser specific, or someone is temporarily mucking around with something on the platform. Consider showing a screenshot. Also, Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) might have more techies than the general help desk. Good luck. —Bagumba (talk) 16:41, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
The village pump is also unsurprisingly very helpful: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Template:Subject_bar_creating_whitespace. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:14, 8 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Username question

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Is this a username violation? It has a single letter added to Kawhi Leonard which doesn't seem to fundamentally change the meaning of the name, but maybe there's something I'm missing. Left guide (talk) 06:04, 16 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Left guide: It depends on whether you think WP:IMPERSONATE includes typos. In this case, though, Kawhi is not a common name, so one could argue that many would not know it's a typo. —Bagumba (talk) 06:35, 16 July 2026 (UTC)Reply