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Some Other Stuff

Some Other Stuff is the second album by American trombonist Grachan Moncur III, recorded on July 6, 1964 and released on Blue Note early the following year. The quintet features saxophonist Wayne Shorter, and rhythm section Herbie Hancock, Cecil McBee and Tony Williams.

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Jul 21, 2026
Read time
≈ 2 min
Length
372 w
Citations
8
Source
Some Other Stuff
Studio album by
ReleasedJanuary/February 19651
RecordedJuly 6, 1964
StudiosVan Gelder Studio
Englewood Cliffs, NJ
GenresAvant-garde jazz, post-bop
Length40:47
LabelsBlue Note
BLP 4177
ProducerAlfred Lion
Grachan Moncur III chronology
Evolution
(1963)
Some Other Stuff
(1965)
New Africa
(1969)

Some Other Stuff is the second album by American trombonist Grachan Moncur III, recorded on July 6, 1964 and released on Blue Note early the following year.2 The quintet features saxophonist Wayne Shorter, and rhythm section Herbie Hancock, Cecil McBee and Tony Williams.

Background

Compositions

According to Moncur, "Gnostic" is a free jazz piece "which eliminates a pulsating meter", representing the achievement of salvation through the expression of knowledge and wisdom.3 "Thandiwa" (Zulu: "Beloved One") is the least experimental track of the album. "The Twins", a portrayal of his twin brothers, is built off only one chord; he considered the rhythm the focal point of the composition.3 "Nomadic" is centered on a drum solo by Tony Williams.

Release history

It was remastered by Rudy Van Gelder for CD in 2008.

Reception

Professional ratings
Review scores
SourceRating
AllMusicStarStarStarStarHalf star4
Down BeatStarStarStarStarHalf star5
The Penguin Guide to Jazz RecordingsStarStarStarHalf star6

The AllMusic review by Scott Yanow states, "Grachan Moncur III was one of the top trombonists of the jazz avant-garde in the 1960s although he had only a few chances to lead his own record sessions. This 1964 set (which has been reissued on CD) was one of his finest... None of the compositions caught on but the strong and very individual improvising of the young musicians is enough of a reason to acquire the advanced music."4

Track listing

All tracks are written by Grachan Moncur III.

Side 1
No.TitleLength
1."Gnostic"11:46
2."Thandiwa"8:21
Side 2
No.TitleLength
1."The Twins"12:55
2."Nomadic"7:43

Personnel

Musicians

Technical personnel

References

References

  1. "Billboard". Nielsen Business Media, Inc. February 6, 1965. p. 34. Retrieved July 6, 2025 – via Google Books.
  2. Blue Note Records discography accessed November 17, 2010
  3. Liner notes by Don Heckman
  4. Yanow, S. Allmusic Review accessed November 17, 2010
  5. Down Beat: May 6, 1965 vol. 32, no. 10
  6. Cook, Richard; Morton, Brian (2008). The Penguin Guide to Jazz Recordings (9th ed.). Penguin. p. 1018. ISBN 978-0-141-03401-0.